I'll try them out as a comparison to the Win Partition Golds I now use. I don't mind paying more for the ammo because it just falls in line with all the other equipment for hunting and fishing. The newer rifle premium bullets and layered powder arrangements the factories have been putting out make them very competitive with most custom hand loads. Shotgun loads are following some of the same paths. Improvements have been made in all types of equipment and I plan to stay up with any changes. Sure...A few dollars more but I like to use the best products available. Still there is a point about dead is dead and certainly shot placement is the most important factor in success. Nonetheless I am always looking for a better mouse trap.