ORIGINAL: sabotloader
It is really difficult for a person in Colorado to feel what is happening in Idaho, just as it is difficult for me to know what is happening in Colorado and evenif I did no - I really do not know where or how my feelings should have anything to do with the rules you establish in Colorado.
Not really so Sabotloader. Fact is, I empathized with you and I have a sense about your how you felt. I even wondered if this kind of movement could affect your income. I brushed that off and decided it had every thing to do with the performance you expect in you ML rifle. Even so, regarding performance, you would have had a very effective load for the GMB'd hawken. I go to the field with less and must get closer than you in spite of my inline. It does change hunting strategy and I figured it would provide you a rewarding change from the hum-drum point and shoot to 175 yards you have comeso accustomed to. I suspect that the recent change, in your neck of the woods, of the ML season to SRW is comforting to you, and I am happy for you. If you recall, I predicted it would happen in so many words.
Phil to be honest with you I have never even heard of a State Muzzleloading Association...
Mike, maybe you guys don't actually have a generalized state one. Colorado does and it is an assemblage of a bunch of great folks. I am not a member, but lately, I have felt a conviction that I should be and that I should support it with time and effort because they do so many great things to the benefit of muzzleloading and hunting.
. . .Further I am not convincinced thatall of the Trad clubs or even the all of the traditional folks requested these sweeping changes.. .
I thank you for that comment. I think the state is the one responsible.
Original: cascadedad
These numbers have been referenced before. . .
As I commented before, I don't think Muledeernet.com's numbers can be relied upon. Using them makes you look a little like a conspiracy theorist. The state's publicly made claim of over 20,000 hunter participation in ML season is so far off from your numbers that I just have to ignore them.
What you don't realize, cascadedad, is that the citizens of Idaho were going to lose something anyway. In Colorado, we lost 9 days of prime hunting season (rut) to make allowances for inline hunters. If Colorado decided to make the ML hunt a PRB/flinter season, I would have to say, I might just support it if they gave us back the days. I figure there would be enough inliners go back to rifle season that I could depend on a draw for bull each year, which now I can't. But alas, inliners so love their inlines that they just bargained away by anarchist threats halfour season. I suppose you would call that a victory.
As for the woods to themselves? Simply hogwash. Take your traditional rifle hunting and participate, they want you there, if YOU want to be there. Lack of participation is the fault of the person who won't participate. I for one don't want the woods to be devoid of other hunters. I have often benefitted from their presence.
Finally, U. C., obviously there are lots of ways to load an Inline inferior to a 30-30. I do that myself. I merely made a contextual statement, which context was SO specific, that one could draw no conclusion other than I meant that such loads were minority. Again, its not up to the 30-30 to show it can play in ML season. The comparison isn't really centerfires and inline muzzleloaders. The comparison is really a frontier rifle loaded with PRB (states original intent)and whether the inline muzzleloader is sufficiently primitive to play in a primitive hunt.