BT,one thing I've learned over the years is just because a bird doesn't gobble in the evening going to or on the roost doesn't mean he wont gobble to a locator at daybreak!Another thing I really try to key in on with veteran birds is of which I belive is there greatest weakness is figureing out there home turf!Older dominate longbeards in my opinion are the only birds besides the hens during the peek of breeding season to have an established home area,of which they defend and collect hens.Reading sign,using your ears,and being able to spend time in the woods is key in figuring his or there territory out.Once you find these established strutting grounds,travel routes, and roostsites a pattern can be determined,and with a little patience he or they can be conquered.The tough part for many of us is having the time,but if your like me,you take the time cause you love the challenge!!! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Monarch isn't a butterfly it's the King of the Spring!