I've shot deer with just about every caliber you can imagine but nowadays I find myself packing a Rem 700 Classic in .250 Savage and Nolsler Partitions 100gr with a healthy dose of Win 760.The deer drop just as quick and I get to see the bullet hit RE: no recoil.The mulie pic in my profile lost a terminal game of hide +seek in the poplars last fall.Bullet an inch below the earhole offhand at 50yrds.{dead before he hit the ground]I finished off a buddies whitetail buck at 300 with a lung shotafter it took two hits from a 6.5x55/140gr and wouldn't stay down.Rutted up, thought he was bullet proof.I like to set myself up on game trails so woods ranges are typically 25-100yards and the game never knows where it came from ,it's just over.To me this is more hunting than just shooting....................Harold