Sproulman, don't pm me i didn't open it and not going to! Post what you have to say openly!I haven't went behind yer back on anything. I started out in 58 using a long bow, then bought a Red Wing Hunter #52 in 67 while in high school,a recurve. Kept it until last spring and sold it, couldn't draw it anymore. Now i shoot and love my CB, and its archery just has a stock i hold on to. Its under 35 yds. close and personal just like my others were! Its the hunting challenge not the pityful kill i enjoy! Do you understand me![:-] This is my last post on this topic thread!