I have to agree with you. The Thompson Center Renegade (not the Renegade Hunter) is my favorite rifle. The double set triggers and fast action. They are a real meat and potatoes kind of rifle. They handle fast, point well, are balanced, and have always done what I needed them to do. Although, I like the Thompson Center Hawkins a little better as far as recoil absorption. Renegades with a stiff powder charge can really smack me in the cheek.