We set up in the wood on a hill and shoot down into a cut corn field they are always in. We use .17 HMR and .22 Mags. I got a .204 Ruger i want to try out on them but i think its gonan em to loud. With the rimfies at 100 yards they dont even realize your shooting at them and stay in the field whyle your shooting there whole family. The farmers love us for it and its great target practice.