ShatoDavis: Please do not be too upset with me. I have only owned 1-264 Win Mag. It was the Remington classic, and I never shot the rifle. I did not feel qualified to speak of the caliber. I did however order a custom 6.5 X 284 barrel for my Encore. I will be using this for a long range(350-550 yards) ground hog rifle this year. I will hopefully be shooting this one alot.

I started this post to discuss caliber's and not cartridges. But it seems everyone wants to revert back to cartridges. Oh well-so be it. Tom.