Hey listen, all of this is just an attempt to detur me from the 7mm-08 as my next bolt action rifle into buying a .308 for my son instead. Since it's always about me and there is always a conspiracy involved I just thought you all should know! However, in the land of the free and the home of the brave, I am still leaning toward a 7mm-08 for my son's Elk slayer. Now give up the ghost! Can't we all just get a long? I mean, am I really worth all of this trouble?