ORIGINAL: James B
Sorry but a 30-30 won't kill modern deer. You need some kind of a Magnum for sure. I have seen modern deer(Kevlar Hide) just laugh off the sorry old 30-30.
Go for a Short Mag which beats the hell out of the OLD long Mags with no recoil. They also will drag your kill out and skin it.
Heck James,
you could also say the same thing about the outdated 30-06.
I just hope the deer don't start reading ballistic tables in magazines. Of course, if the deer poked fun at me sitting in the tree with my Marlin, he wouldn't be laughing long.
C. Davis