i have had several mossberg 500-s . first of all if its a great shooter doesnt matter what it looks like but its a smooth bore so i wouldnt think its such a great long range tight grouper. i have gotten brand new model 500-s for a little over 200$ so the price isint all that great. the scope is a cheapy and the scope mount on it has to be taken off and put back on if your using it for deer and small game. i found those type mounts a pain. if you really want a slug gun i would get a rifled barrel if you shooting more than 60 yards. i wouldnt pay more than 125$ but thats me.