ok since i was the one that all the sudden wanted a late gun season which i never said i was ask why people didn't it/ why they wanted it to stay I understand those states are different but if a growing herd is our problem why don't we have a early muzzy season or a primitive muzzy season what about an earlier bow season all add opportunity for hunters the youth season is antlerless only if the herd is a problem open it to both. some want earn a buck i don't but it was said earlier that guys only buck hunt and that would get the 2 (possible). it was only a couple of years ago that we were buck only until the last 4 days of gun some things don't add up if you think about your argument if the herd is the problem theres answers if max opportunity is there is answers I'm not saying we need to change but if we are in need we have thing we could do