I had a standard 45/70 24" blued barrel that I had "french grayed" and cut down to 18" and installed a williams peep. Recoil with heavy loads and the light weight synthetic stock was pretty brutal, but not unmanagable. The encore stock isn't the best design to handle recoil. It was a really handly little package, the overall length is VERY short, almost like a long barred handgun. My dad liked it so muchthat he has permanentlyborrowed it.