i have the one made by hopes(SP)..you can operate it yourself with the rope..pull it to make it fly...its kinda slow but its decint and cheap i think maybe 25bux or so...i used the bigger ones im not sure who makes them they are about 100 or so and they are a bit faster and fly nicer but they are bigger and heavier and they have a knob thats kinda hard to pull so youd have to pull a hard to pull knob stand up and shoot..i did it before..its kinda hard but possible..i like my hopes though..i can stand back..pull it myself and stil lget a good shot..ony downfall is its not as fast as some clays ive shot...and when you pull it you have to stand behind it so you cant get creative unless someone else pulls...