They aren't much to brag about in this area either. As an example, I brought in, to sell, a very nice Ruger M77 (older tang safety) .243 with a like new Leupold VXII 4-12 scope. It's in great shape and is a real shooter. The best anyone would offer was $350. The scope alone is worth that. Needless to say, it's still in the safe.