I hope it doesn't turn into a battle either I never intended, but IMO and tests I have seen theopen patterns like asat and predator and enigma and a few others are what IMO blend and break a human outline at close range and farther away. SO that's why I am asking for opinions and actual trails with the two choices I have. One other question I have is Bucksuede breathable(sp?) or would a guy sweat like a hog on a warmer day in it (rember ground hunting weather it be sitting or stalking) Thanks