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Old 01-30-2007 | 03:39 PM
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LBR
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Default RE: How come I didn't do this sooner?

Lol--we go from blanket statements to a little more specific eh? Ok, I'll play.

Lets pheasant hunt ........ you'll maybe go 1 for 50 and the compounder might go 0-50 is there REALLY that much differnce ?
First, with practice, a decent trad shooter will do better than that--some a lot better. Doesn't really matter if it's1 out of 1,000 vs 0 out of 1,000 though--the point is the compound (or rifle)is simply not always the superior weapon.

I'm not so much talking about 3D and trick shooting as I am hunting LBR.
Are you implying that every hunting situation will allow for a perfect, straight-on shot with a clear lane? 3-D is simulating hunting, and a good course will have the targets set in hunting situations. I included 3-D and trick shots, but my points aren't exclusive to just those situations.

Its the Big Easy ....... and compounds Rule bowhunting because of it.
Easier in the short run--that's why they rule--almost instant gratification. Take two people of equal talent/dexterity/eyesight/etc., put a compound in one's hand and a recurve in the other's, the one with the compound will be consistently on target first. I haven't argued that. However, take a good compound shooter and a good traditional shooter and there are some situations where the compound shooter has the advantage, but also many situations wheretraditional shooter has the advantage.

You reference your experience in 3D, I reference mine in hunting.
Wrong again. The very first time I hunted deer with a bow (with a compound), the compound was a handicap. I could have killed that deer easily with a recurve or longbow and minimal experience, but he went on his way without a scratch after two shots with the compound. The reason? My pin was off. Shoot, I could have killed that deer with a spear, maybe with a big rock. And yes, it was without a doubt my sight--I left the woods immediately and checked--it was WAY off, although I'd been bustingnocks with it in my back yard before.

When I went to Canada a few years ago on a moose hunt, there was two separate cases with two different guys who, if they had been using a trad bow, most likely would have at least gotten a shot, but it was blown due to them having compounds. One came to full draw, but the moose moved his head over his vitals (scratching or something), so the guy had to wait. He couldn't let down slowly and smoothly due to the let-off (he was on the ground), so he had to hold at full draw for while. While he waited, he drifted forward of his anchor a bit. Moose got right, he came back to anchor, arrow fell off the rest. He stood there, bow draw with no arrow on the string, moose staring at him. He finally had to let down, moose headed for AK.

Second instance--one of the guys forgot his release aid and realized it when he was in his spot, a LONG walk away from where his release was. He figured he could shoot fingers if he got a moose close. As the sun was going down, a bull moose got dangerously close (agitated from the challenging calls the guy had made--moose was tearing crap up). He couldn't shoot because: he'd forgot his release aid, and he couldn't find his pin through the peep. His name is Kip, and he got a longbow shortly after he got home. He used to post here, but I haven't heard form him in quite a while.

Third case--same trip. It was unseasonbly hot, the moose activity was near nothing during the day, so a few of us did some grouse hunting. No shots at flying birds, but most were in the trees. Compound guys didn't dare risk a shot, 3 out of 4 of the trad guys got birds (4th didn't buy a license). We managed to bring home at least some game for our efforts, due to having trad bows. Compound guys knew that, hit or miss, their arrows were gone after one shot.

Again, I know, realize, and admit that compounds do have their advantages, especially in some situations. I think I have adequately proven my point that they are not superior in all ways period; and that in some situations--trick shooting, 3-D, and hunting--traditional bows are obviously superior.

I take it you are declining my challenge?



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