I agree with HCH, without thinking too much into it. I think the lowering of insurance comes from the insurance company not having to pay for all those wrecked cars, not from a bunch of people being killed. I guess my idea of being proud is a little different since I hunt for meat mainly. I still pose with my deer or turkey, but it's not that important. I keep turkey calls in my pocket, calling at times, I have hunting stickers on my truck. I display the fact that I hunt, using that as a coversation starter. People want to know if I hunt, I proudly say yes and depart or talk hunting. I feel that I make differences in what people think of us, I can't convert everyone but just a few helps. I'm proud of our tradition as hunters and I want to raise my children in the same light.