DoninVa, have you tried shooting without the grip? It really changes the feel of the bow and will give you a small amount more brace height. Racks7, I have the Satelite 4 arrow 2 piece quivers on both mine and my Wife's bows. They are very light and the camo matches the bow. I wish BowTech made a 4 or 5 arrow 2 piece<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>.