so thats the only shot it interfeared with even with a bigger bow?? thats not to bad because really unless your rifle hunting that really isnt the shot to take..and even with a rifle i would crack him before he got under me...i used a forearm climber before and didnt like it much..it was alright but id like to sit down better i think...i think thats the stand i will go with..i need comfort..i think id love leaning forward on the bar and day dreaming to pass time and rifle season it would be perfect..i dont like the real shooting bars becasue they are far out and hard to take a closer shot than with that closer in bar....thanx for the info...i think thats the stand i will go with..my dad would feel better with that one too..he hates tree stands and will probally not want me using an open stand...hed like it better knowing im a bit safer i think...and i would feel alot safer..i stood up in one that didnt have the bars and i couldnt move i was so scared...and putting on the saftey strap and stuff i was scared...i would like to know if i do lean back a bit to far i have a bar there before i fall...just makes me feel better..thanx alot for the info..