OK, this one is going to have to go to arbitration. Matt says MoCraig is a failure. MoCraig says that Muzzy is a failure.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Hmmmmmmmm..... I abstain. All I'll say is that with that set up and with an arrow flying true, it shouldn't have happened. I'd venture to say we'll never know for sure... but we don't have all the info and never will. The broadhead would perform better under worse conditions normally... and I'm not a Muzzy man. I shoot Thunderheads. This is not a normal happening. Something goofy.