I have a primos can call. Ive had it for two years. I sit in these bales of hay on the ground during the rut. I sit between 2 woods and across the creek from a 150 acer weed field. There are lots of big bucks. And what i do is i hit my can call 3 times then i wait a few minutes i blow my grunt call 3 times and i look different ways when i blow the grunt call. This really works. I have called in lots of bucks. On night i called in 7 bucks within 50 yards. To test and see if this works i sat in that spot without using any calls i didnt see a thing. So i guess it really does work. Let me know if u try this and i hope u have some luck.