ORIGINAL: lemoyne
Blame is not the answer and it is not good for the forum to point fingers at each other.
What some of us have been trying to poit out is that every bullet has a velocity range that it works in including PB's if you can find that range and you are willing to live with the trajectory that it gives you then all the popular ones including PB's will do the job; you have to remember that when PB's were designed the normal load was about 70 to 80 gr of black FF and thats where they work best but the dangerous game 444 and the platiniums can handle a bit more. They were not designed for mag loads or inlines to start with in my humble opinion even though my Omega will group them in 1.5 inchs @ 100yds with 150 gr RS,which makes a fine varmit load. Lee
I would disagree with you on at least two main points, Lee. I don't think a 444 PB is designed for a traditional muzzleloading rifle.And I don't think they can handle just a "bit" more than245 PB with a hollowpoint. Nor do Ithink a 444 PB is a bit more than a varmint bullet. In my humble opinion,its not a good comparison to load 3 pellets on a 245 and draw conclusions about the performance of a 444 with75 grains. 400+ grain unjacketed conicals have,propelled with just such 70 - 90 grain (BP equivalents)charges, killed millions of bison, elk, grizzlys, moose, caribou, not to mention alotafrican dangerous game. This kind of loading, as evidenced by the early black powder cartridge rifles,is proven to have done this providing the penetration and wound making characteristics which are required to do it.
It's so crazy all the conceptions we have about different projectiles. I've yet to see anyone, but myself, change their mind about them. You should recall that I changed my mind about using roundballs for hunting and in fact, saving for a better roundball traditional rifle. In any event, I really meant it when I said this thread isn't accomplishing anything, there is so much mis or dis (which ever one wants to call it) information in it, a considerable portion of which is non-contextual, that its not possible for someone naive to bullet selection to draw any conclusions from it. And that IMO is a dowright shame.