I would also go with the Summit. Two reasons: #1-comfortable!! The seats on the climbers are awesome. Very big, padded, and back reset is very long so it covers you all the way to the neck. #2- They are all-welded, so no rattling. The loggys that my friend uses rattle like you wouldn't believe because of the bolts. They do fold flatter because you can move the brackets, butthat flatness doesn't really make it any easier to carry than my Summit.