I used the gold magnums last year, they group about 4 inches or so at 100 yards out of my gun. I was hoping the added weight (600 grns!) would help me transfer more energy to the deer. Not the case for me. I shot one at 20 yards and it put a hole the size of quarter in one side and out the other, and took out a 3 inch tree behind the deer. That sucker still ran 90 yards before dropping.

For now on I'm going to go with better bullet design over weight. Before my scope went to heck I was getting around 1-2 inch groups with the platinum tips. I wanted to switch to the the one ounce barnes expanders but they didn't shoot consistantly. Now I am thinking it may have been my scope, I will have to try them again next summer to see what they do.

I didn't hunt at all this year, after moving I just didn't have the time or money.

Paul