I did not mean to say 3" groups at 100 yards are impossible...only they are not common and could not be expected. Atleast not from uncustomized guns. I am assuming that we are talking about your average everyday off the shelf smoothbore shotgun.

Misplaced I will gladly buy you the ammo to see you shoot several groups inside 3 inches at 100 yards lol.... and then probly try to talk you into selling me the gun

as for misplaced's son and ducka shooting 3 shot groups that all touch at 100 yards...well what can I say lol anyone else here find that highly unlikely?

** I almost got him but I refuse to take a marginal shot **