Salty, don't give up. I know how you feel, but this is only my third year and I finally was able to harvest a buck. I'mparticipating ona discussion on another post discussing the one buck rule, or any suggestions that you or someone may have as to ways we can improve the issue. Some feel there is no issue in NY, others see differently. Do you hunt private or public land, how much time do you spend afield and do you only hunt in Marlboro? Thanks, Rod.