BBJ: Sorry, the tone probably came off wrong when I typed that. I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't a good shotgun. I just thought it was way to soon for saying "He's shot 20 boxes and it still works great". That's something I would say after shooting for a long time. By saying "still" it gave me the impression that you thought thatwas a lot of rounds and you were pleased that it had lasted that long. When it's still a relatively new shotgun, I'd say "he's shot 20 boxes and he loves it." Again, sorry if I sounded harsh. I really didn't mean it that way.