Well the saga goes on. From the trailer i toted top half of ladder stand over to tree, third of a mile.I tried to get it up but ran out of muscle,tired from bringing it over.Then the high school boy came slipping down close to where i was. He was following me and had saw my stand. I followed him and he went to where my climber was, then i knowed it was him that put dirt in my lock and took my clips fer cable. Spect i will end up having a talk to him, don't need to mess my stands up.Heck i would even let him use them on the weekends, i can't be in but one at a time.