First deer ever was with a shotgun: 140lbs field dressed, 5pt basket rack
With a bow I got one the first time out it was a button heart shot at 34yds
With a rifle it was a spike that dressed at 170, that one was special cause my buddy took his first deer with a shotgun and it was a typical 8pt that field dressed at 263lbs, we were only on stans for 1 1/2 hrs in a place neither of us had hunted before.