Thanks guys, i'm not gettin anywhere with the dnr. They don't seem to want to say much about piggys. As far as the dayton wild bar hog variety, i know that they can be lured in with an order of chili fries and a couple beers, but when cornered, they are the meanest of the mean. So , i have learned to avoid any conflict with that breed of hog. I'd rather fight a russian boar with my gerber tool than tangle with one of those..............