I live in wisconsin but i sometimes hunt the thick mountain tops of Pa. I have a NEF heritage with a lymans peep on it and a rem model 7600 in .270 with a williams peep in it.I love them. I think they are the best thing to use in thick cover. You have a great field of view and with a little practice you can aquire your target very easily. Also they work great if you like to still hunt and track deer like I do. Running shots are no problem with them. The only downside to them is they sit a little higher than open sights and they can get caught on the brush a little easier.