ok after reading the first post ..
not all of us are slobs but there are a few in northern minnesota that ..
oh by the way theres 5 less der in minnesota that came off my own land..
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p26/icemanguides_2006/HPIM0031.jpg
oh sure it does help if you own your one land too but thers lots of state land too don't get me wrong..