I have had the same kind of luck with PB's I had better luck with the saber Tooth but I don't trust either one of them what goes down to easy can come out to easy. I went to Shock Waves And XTP with HPH24 sabots they load just snug enough to make me feel like they will stay put and they shoot quite well for me. They also usually give me an exit hole and a blood trail which I did not get from PB or ST. Lee