I have a 7mm-08 that My daughter and I use 140 grain bt Winchesters out of.Thisload will not drop the deer in it's tracks(unless,maybe on a shouler hit)We shoot for lungs and the combo has taken 4 deer from 20 yard to 140 yards on deer from 50lbs to 150 lbs and the ammo and caliber have performed flawlessly.WE HAVE NOT HURT ANY MEAT ON THE 4 DEER.The deer are never far but the blood trail is AWESOME.1 was a gut shot(by my daugther) and the blood trail was perfect.


The only deer that the bullet didn't go through was the biggest deer and it was quartering away at about 60-70 yards.


IMO,way too many people go way overkill for deer.I personally feel anything above a .270 is more than one needs for deer.I used to use a .270 with 130 grain ppsp bullets and never had a deer take a step after being shot with it but I did tear up some meat.