Heres the deal with that particular call, if you watch the mini DVD they provide with the call, they are using it in a controlled enviorment where there is lots of pressure from other bucks. Now I don't know about you guys but you know the pros have every advantage when it comes to that land and most of us arn't that lucky to hunt where there are that many bucks competing for does. I do think that the call would work better if we could hunt like they do. personally i think that if you use a quality buck grunt, snort/wheeze, and the right scent patterns you will do just fine!