Yeah jhalfhill, I have checked my figures over and over, I don't think some of the other guys are taking all the measurments that B-C allows, Help me out and see what you get, He had 4 points on each side, with a 7 6/8 tip to tip spread and a 13 4/8 greastest spread, a 12 1/8 inside spread, right main beam was 15 4/8, left main beam was 15 1/8 and the antler lengths on the right side was 1 3/8, 5 1/8 and 4 4/8, the left side was 1 1/8, 6 2/8, and 53/8. the circumference measurements was right side 3 5/8, 3 even, 2 6/8, and 2 3/8, the left side was 3 4/8, 3 even, 2 7/8, and 2 4/8, did I take some measurments that I should have taken or is my calculations off? Thanks for any help, I don't want to cheat anyone including myself.