Kevin1 - I'm not whinning by any means. For God sakes, I take part in the gun hunt as well. There is a difference between frustrated and whinning. I re-read my posts (multiple times) and nowhere did I read I wasted my time. If I thought my time in the treestand was wasted time, I probably would have stopped going after the first time. So wisen up there fella, take your time when you read, read all the words, and please don't put words in my mouth. Thanks buddy!!