Sorry, but I have to vent a bit about how much I'm not a fan of gun hunting. Yes, I do gun hunt. I put a lot of time into this past bow season. I sat hours and hours, and spend days and days of vacation time bowhunting. I seen about 12 different bucks, 3-4 shooters. However, I didn't fill my tag. I gun hunt the same area, so I was hoping to see one of the nice bucks during the rifle season. Well I only seen does and a spike opening weekend, and I did hear a lot of shooting on the neihbors land. I found out they shot 6 nice bucks this past weekend. The smallest had a 16" spread. I know that fair is fair, but what bothers me is that I spend hours and hours out hunting and scouting, and they spend one/two days. I know patience pays off blah blah blah, but it never fails. Sorry