RE: If you had to choose between an ES or GSP for Grouse what would it be?
This difference between an english setter vs. llewellin setter is negligable. Most setters have llewellin blood. This year at Ames, there were several setters with 90% llewellin blood. Those that took the poll prolly did not notice the difference or know what a llewellin was. The strain is Duke-Rhoebe-Laverack cross. It's only a separate registry because of historic reasons. That's why AKC, NAFTA, etc. don't recognize llews. Only AF does because American Fieldcame into existancewhen imported setters, especially those from Llewellin kennels in Scottland was winning field trials. The same pollers if asked who won the National Grouse Championship this year would say 'english setter' whereas in truth it was a llewellin.