ORIGINAL: ajfoyt

My experience is they are garbage I was standing next to a guy talking 3 years ago when a doe walked out 50 yards from us. He shot the thing 3 times in the chest with a .308 and it stood there like nothing hit it. I shot it once with my .270 with 140 gr Hornady's and it dropped like a stone.

When we gutted the deer none of the bullettspenetrated thru the animal and all 3 bullets shattered what a mess. Lots of meat lost.

Maybe the new ones are better but there are like the old winchester silver tips they used to do the same thing. It will take alot of convincing to get me to try them on game. They shoot good maybe at paper.