Sorry to hear about the lost big boys. I know the feeling of losing a deer...I don't like it. Infact, my pop shot a doe the other day...good blood...but we lost her. That's bowhunting. If a bowhunter says that he has never wounded and lost a deer he is not telling the whole truth or he is very very very lucky. I do have some good news. Two days before my pop shot the one we didn't find he did shoot a Button Buck. He hit the deer in the spine and dropped it right on the bait pile. It's his 20th deer and I couldnt be happier. I will add some pics when I get a chance.