For years I have been trying to emulate a sound that when I first heard it sounded like somebody was riding a dirt bike up thru the woods. It turned out to be a huge eight point chasing a screaming doe. Three other bucks all converged on the area near my stand and those three got in a three way brawl. The new call sounds just like what I heard. I have one and will be using it now, have not used it because I think it is a rut call but I will give it a try tonite.