Well once again the bucks wont come within range. They keep going into the woods below me. So do you think this will work? After being aggravated once again that they wont come close to me I got out of my stand to come back to the house and when I got to where they are walking in I pissed on there trail in hope they will smell that and come up closer to me. Do you think that will move them?? They have done this to me over and over again. The only time I had deer come close to me I couldn't get a shot as they came from behind me and to my left ( I'm left handed ) and I couldn't position myself for a shot without getting bagged. They never did see me as they just kept eating and walked off slow. I have had the wind in my favor every time they cross the road and they just wont come up to where I'm at. They never run off they just walk along slow and threw the woods in front of me but never close. Moving my stand isn't really an option as there is no trees big enough to put it on. So what do you all think??? Thanks for the input