Well thanks guys. like I said I like them and I am really happy with how they shoot. I have taken a turkey and a doe with them and I didn't have any problems at all. I was just wondering if there was that one instance where someone didn't like them for what ever reason. I had ACC's before and they shot fine but I had them for a few years and wanted to go with a heavier arrow. Thanks sounds like there weren't any glaring problems other then personal preference. Just wanted to make sure I didn't just get lucky.