Me and my nephew just shot off a box of managed recoil out of his win 70
30-06, The recoil is about 10 to 15% less than my daughters savage 243... They do hold a tight pattern and the noise is way down on them to.... I did shoot 165 gr rem expresscore loct psp out of his same gun that we sighted in for managed recoil... There was no difference or drop at all at 100yrds.... Then I shot 180 gr rem high velocity soft point core loct out of his gun...Maybe a3/8 inch drop if that...The 220 gr rem rnd nose to the plunge.It dropped about 5 inches from the sight in of the managed recoil...I didn't have any pointed 220 to shoot and was curious if it was cause of the rnd nose that made it drop that much... Now out of my A-bolt browning 30-06 with the muzzle break...The 220 rnd nose didn't drop under 1 inch of impact of my sight in for 165gr REM express core loct... I think this had to do with the longer barrel on my browning than the win 70....But I did not see that much of a diffrence in drop from the 125gr managed recoil and the 165 and 180 gr at a 100yrds...

I don't know how they work on deer yet,,But if they work good then maybe I should of bought my daughter a 308 or 30-06 and used these managed recoil shells instead of the 243...I am paying 28$ a box for the win 95 gr ballistic tip and the managed recoil are like 20$ and the recoil and noise is far less to boot...I don;t know how they do on deer yet,the jury is still out on this part yet..