I have used a Summit cobra XL, whick i dont believe they make anymore. It has been the best tree stand that I have seen. It weighs only 17lbs, and is really quiet and durable. I have used this stand for 5 years and the cables are just now starting to wear out. As far as set up time, it takes me 5 minutes or less. It is serioulsy an easy setup, and if it is taking you 20 minutes to setup you are doing something wrong. I would check Summits line out.