This is why I love these forums. DH and I are looking at buying a climber and was looking at the Summit. The one we were looking at was only 14 pounds, but the store sold the last one. I want something light and easy to use, so I can pack in and out by myself with no problem. I'msmall so dont want something too heavy, but quick. I did use a climber last week with the cable and pin set up. Didnt have a problem getting up, but getting down the bottom was hard to let down. Several times I had to pick it up with my hands to loosen it. We have been hunting more public ground and dont want our stands stolen, and we always seem to have to move stands more than we would like. Thanks for all the info!!