Thanks Rebel Hog.. That must be a mature 3 1/2 yr olddeer then...Maybe this AR program here in Pa. has something to do with these large tracks I seen.... I would like to see him in real and get a good look at his body size and rack...I don't hunt deer there on the first week of season,But spend lots of time with squirrels down there...I will have to take the camera with me sat when I get to get there early with the kids....Maybe I can get a look at him then or maybe find some rubs a bit further out from where we hunt at.....