And you seem to go out of your way to bash me a lot. I always expect you to chime in whenever I post my opinion here.

How am I bashing NY? I live in NY, have done the vast majority of my hunting in NY, owned hunting land in NY, am sworn to protect NY, the list goes on. Pointing out the obvious lack of effective deer managment, at least until recently, is not bashing NY. While the Western tier of NY seems to be popular with hunters, and Long Island is a consistent producer, the adirondacks are mostly dried up, and the south-east is WAY over hunted. Being someone who mostly hunts public land, shoot me if I gravitate to a state where public land hunting is much more productive than NY's. Not to mention that there are people who see NJ as "the next texas" sort of state to be honest.

YEARS of extensive quality management have produced a healthy deer herd with a proper age structure. Ny has not done that at all.Year after year I see mostly spikes being taken from the zones I hunt in NY, and last year I hunted 6 seperate zones on multiple occasions. While of coruse that does not mean that people aren't taking trophy bucks there, but it is a lot of time spent out to not see even one. Not to mention too much time spent on boards like this without seeing one post about a large NY buck anytime recently.

I personally feel that NY needs some sort of improvement, and I would love to see it so that I can enjoy my hunting here more. I see bigger bucks on Staten Island than in the Catskills, and that's the truth! Right now, I feel that A/R is the way to go. Could I be wrong? Of course, but I see this workign in other places, so why not here? Until someone shows me the benefits of cleaning the woods out of its 1 1/2 year old bucks every year, I will keep the same opinion.